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putting the actual numbers obama's claim obama's claim about a five trillion dollars tax cut came from a tax policy center study that in the abstract will tell you the next policies are you are you denying that words that we're collecting two trillion dollars a year in taxes right no one said ok you know only two times stan is twenty romney was not running wasn't exactly what was tax plan but what are you guys both so worried about both candidates are going to grow government anyway you're just going to get a slight decrease in spending from a romney presidency obama you both should be happy liberals or conservatives should all be very happy with the growth of government i would be because it because anybody who cares about liberty or freedom or free markets they're screwed anybody who is a working poor but i want to go away for your freedom riders are you know they're going to remember it is terrible you know it's about us first we've got to have liberty for the koch brothers i get it you know we got to deregulate their oil plants and then they're and they're paid. mills and things ab
putting the actual numbers obama's claim obama's claim about a five trillion dollars tax cut came from a tax policy center study that in the abstract will tell you the next policies are you are you denying that words that we're collecting two trillion dollars a year in taxes right no one said ok you know only two times stan is twenty romney was not running wasn't exactly what was tax plan but what are you guys both so worried about both candidates are going to grow government anyway you're just...
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obama when he had those opportunities, either punted and didn't want to, you know, go into the rough and tumable with the governor, which is surprising, because i wouldn't have expected that from him. >> rose: thank you, ben, thank you, david. >> thank you, charlie. >> rose: great to see you. back in a moment, stay with us. the fundamental principles of democracy rely on an accurate and reliable system of vote counting. despite continued advances in voting technology, zero there are security issues still persist, barbara simons is an expert on electronic voting and on the advisor of the election commission and her book is called broken ballots will your votes counties, welcome. >> thank you very much, it is a pleasure. >> you have been involved in computer science most of your adult left. >> i have a ph.d. >> rose: yes. that qualifies you. how did you get involved in this, though, the technology of voting? >> well, in 2003, a colleague of mine, david dill, a professor at stanford discovered that silicon centrally, santa clara county was about to buy voting machines to be used there a
obama when he had those opportunities, either punted and didn't want to, you know, go into the rough and tumable with the governor, which is surprising, because i wouldn't have expected that from him. >> rose: thank you, ben, thank you, david. >> thank you, charlie. >> rose: great to see you. back in a moment, stay with us. the fundamental principles of democracy rely on an accurate and reliable system of vote counting. despite continued advances in voting technology, zero...
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the chicago, jobs report gives obama a much-needed boost. i have to tell you, on wall street people are picking apart these numbers with a fine tooth comb. a lot of people don't believe them. they think they have been massaged, managed and some white. is the media -- more evidence totally for obama? >> sure. i read the new york times assessment of, you know, the attacks as the book were cut. this is not political, this is a statistical. always. the numbers are volta, but it is not politics. look. this is an administration that has been lying about who killed our ambassador. they have released classified information to help the president in the campaign, so the idea that they would cook the books in this is not so far-fetched. whether they did, i don't know, but the problem is they have no credibility. gerri: it's interesting because romney favorability ratings just about 50% for the first time. is the sustainable? >> i believe it is. his performance was one of the best, i think anybody has seen in a long time. there was not a single moment.
the chicago, jobs report gives obama a much-needed boost. i have to tell you, on wall street people are picking apart these numbers with a fine tooth comb. a lot of people don't believe them. they think they have been massaged, managed and some white. is the media -- more evidence totally for obama? >> sure. i read the new york times assessment of, you know, the attacks as the book were cut. this is not political, this is a statistical. always. the numbers are volta, but it is not...
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. >> so that tells me even though we for so many people, the psychological number, eight, not that we're under the 8% mark in unemployment, do the obama folks think we're not over the hump, economically speaking? >> they concede that and that people are still hurting and what matters to people at home is not some number that the labor department puts out, but their own economic circumstance and whether they have a job, whether they know somebody unemployed and this is very abstract. so people are still hurting. but in terms of the political gamesmanship, 8% is an important marker because when the president passed the stimulus, one of his economists projected, it wasn't a promise, but a projection that 8% would be -- we would not be above 8% with the stimulus and because we were for so long, republicans were able to say the stimulus didn't work, now they can say, look, there is evidence that political football can maybe go away for now. >> jessica yellin, thank you. that's one interpretation of today's number. let's get the other side, the new jobs report forced republican mitt romney to
. >> so that tells me even though we for so many people, the psychological number, eight, not that we're under the 8% mark in unemployment, do the obama folks think we're not over the hump, economically speaking? >> they concede that and that people are still hurting and what matters to people at home is not some number that the labor department puts out, but their own economic circumstance and whether they have a job, whether they know somebody unemployed and this is very abstract....
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if you're a voter in toledo, you're saying what is the story they're trying to tell about president obama? i get that they don't like him but what is the strategy here? on the republican side, a reason that the money has slowed down a little bit is that people are disappointed with the overall big picture, strategic. >> i'm sure you don't mean to imply that there's more coordination -- >> i'm trying to imply there's a lot more common sense we've been advertising on our side than they have been doing on their side. >> when i just made that comment to bill, obviously, in a lighthearted way because super pacs, by law, are not allowed to coordinate with the campaigns. >>> the visit comes three weeks after the attack. the day after a newspaper reporter found sensitive documents laying around the site, one talking about a need for increased security days before the attack. that's "out front" next. >>> once mitt romney and paul ryan take the stage we'll go there live. ♪ [ man ] excuse me miss. [ gasps ] this fiber one 90 calorie brownie has all the moist, chewy, deliciousness you desire. mmmm.
if you're a voter in toledo, you're saying what is the story they're trying to tell about president obama? i get that they don't like him but what is the strategy here? on the republican side, a reason that the money has slowed down a little bit is that people are disappointed with the overall big picture, strategic. >> i'm sure you don't mean to imply that there's more coordination -- >> i'm trying to imply there's a lot more common sense we've been advertising on our side than...
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however, vice president joe biden isn't afraid to tell a hard truth. >> obama and biden want to raise tacks by $8 trillion. guess what? yes, we do in one regard. we want to let that trillion dollar tax cut expire so the middle class doesn't have to bear the burden of all that money going to the super wealthy. >> karen finney is an msnbc political analyst and former dnc communications director and hogan giddily is the former communications director for the rick santorum campaign. welcome to both of you. kar karen, to quote jack nicholson in "a few good men" romney and ryan, they just can't handle the truth can they? >> they can't. the level of intellectual dishonesty, i use the wort intellectual half joking, they took the vice president's comments and truncated them without the most important part, which has been the most important part of what the president has been talking about, what democrats have been talking about, and that is the idea that those at the top should be doing their fair share, and that's something that i guess all of the sudden now romney and ryan, they don't quite
however, vice president joe biden isn't afraid to tell a hard truth. >> obama and biden want to raise tacks by $8 trillion. guess what? yes, we do in one regard. we want to let that trillion dollar tax cut expire so the middle class doesn't have to bear the burden of all that money going to the super wealthy. >> karen finney is an msnbc political analyst and former dnc communications director and hogan giddily is the former communications director for the rick santorum campaign....
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telling news that is breaking news where there i gaze was directed so the question that arises is what i will hand over to meet dimitri to pick up on which is what you were talking earlier to. day which is you don't believe that the market demand is conducive to democracy when it comes to the this election coverage what i was saying we are disagreeing about whether this is in fact the case that they actually do focus on the horse race over the substance but that aside for a second what i'm saying is that the bottom fifty percent of the country is not very profitable for advertisers are they don't really care about them that much they'd rather them just go away there's more more and more food than the graphic so i mean the only people that want to see is who really cares about the horse race only people that have the luxury to watch politics as a sport would actually and not care about the outcome focused on what about romney do with his hair that they did he have a standard double did he get punched in the face before he went on television to warm self up was he dug his head in the ice
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what does all this good-bye stuff tell you? >> obama looks glad it's over. he looks relieved. he doesn't look victorious. romney looks happy and he looks relieved but you can tell that he feels victorious. >> how do you know that barack obama was relieved it was over? what did his face or body tell you? >> just his posture sort of drooped a little bit. he walked over more quickly not because he wanted to be assertive but because he sort of wanted it to be over with, then he goes over to michelle and again, there's this sort of -- it's very, very subtle but this kind of collapsing body language that looks a little bit defeated. romney is showing the opposite. he's doing more of the sort of -- he actually looks -- he loves everyone right now. >> gary tuchman with harvard business school professor amy cuddy. we appreciate it. >>> someone else who was watching the debate closely, alan schroeder, author of "presidential debates, 50 years of high risk tv" and journalism professor in boston, wrote about his take on last night's debate on cnn.com. he joins me now with historical persp
what does all this good-bye stuff tell you? >> obama looks glad it's over. he looks relieved. he doesn't look victorious. romney looks happy and he looks relieved but you can tell that he feels victorious. >> how do you know that barack obama was relieved it was over? what did his face or body tell you? >> just his posture sort of drooped a little bit. he walked over more quickly not because he wanted to be assertive but because he sort of wanted it to be over with, then he...
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rate now at 7.8% doesn't tell the whole story. at a rally a in virginia, a smiling president obama took full advantage of september's jobs report. >> more americans entered the work force, more people are getting jobs. >> reporter: the unemployment rate fell to 7.8%. marking the first time it's been below 8% during his presidency. >> today's excuse is not an excuse to talk down the economy to score a few political point. >> reporter: political points is exactly what mitt romney was going for while talking to voters in virginia. >> this president calls his policies going forward. i call his policies forewarned. >> reporter: romney said the unemployment rate fell because people gave up. >> when i'm president of the united states, that, that unemployment rate is going to come down, not because people are giving up and dropping out of the workforce, but because we're creating more jobs. >> reporter: on social media, some conservatives accuse the obama administration of doctoring the jobs numbers. former general electric ceo jack welch
rate now at 7.8% doesn't tell the whole story. at a rally a in virginia, a smiling president obama took full advantage of september's jobs report. >> more americans entered the work force, more people are getting jobs. >> reporter: the unemployment rate fell to 7.8%. marking the first time it's been below 8% during his presidency. >> today's excuse is not an excuse to talk down the economy to score a few political point. >> reporter: political points is exactly what mitt...
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when we come back we'll tell you what president obama did right and talk about which pundits and politicians actually got it right before the debate. >> so i have absolute confidence when we get to thursday morning, we'll be shaking our head it's a brand new race. >> cenk: it sucks that he was right. did president obama take it easy on romney because fox has been charging over the last two days he's an angry black man? >> what is happening in new orleans? what is your dollar? where is your money? (vo) john fugelsang sees what happens. >> you know, blaming this economy on barack obama is kinda like blaming your hangover on the guy making breakfast. i like mitt romney but i'm sorry. they guy has flipped more than a crack house mattress. this campaign has become so toxic, beverly hills housewives are now injecting it into their foreheads. (vo) so current gave him a weekly show. >> i love romney's debate style, but i tell you, if i could be that stiff for 90 minutes, i'd ... (vo) we probably won't regret it. alright let's break it down. mom, pop it. ♪ ♪ two inches apart, becky. two inches. t
when we come back we'll tell you what president obama did right and talk about which pundits and politicians actually got it right before the debate. >> so i have absolute confidence when we get to thursday morning, we'll be shaking our head it's a brand new race. >> cenk: it sucks that he was right. did president obama take it easy on romney because fox has been charging over the last two days he's an angry black man? >> what is happening in new orleans? what is your dollar?...
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it's time for mitt romney and president obama to go all in, stop passing the plate, and tell voters how to get them over the hump in saving bucks, because as i see it, both campaigns have more cash than, well, whole countries. the issue's not whether you have enough of it, but what you do with it. the cash on hand is not -- if we learned anything from mitt romney last night is that a debate for which he didn't pay a penny is nothing short of the prices. cash might be king, but you can't be king if you don't get your butt before voters. your fat cat handlers will understand. they want you elected. just say you elect to stay away from them, as far as possible, until you are. charlie, what he makes of all of this because, think about it, more bang for the buck, that is governor romney on a free night with 60 million people potentially watching. >> right. it's ironic his big money people, reported on your show, i believe, last week, they were imploring him to get out more and do -- neil: stop talking to us. >> fundraise, get out there, get paul ryan out there. paul ryan denied it. i believe
it's time for mitt romney and president obama to go all in, stop passing the plate, and tell voters how to get them over the hump in saving bucks, because as i see it, both campaigns have more cash than, well, whole countries. the issue's not whether you have enough of it, but what you do with it. the cash on hand is not -- if we learned anything from mitt romney last night is that a debate for which he didn't pay a penny is nothing short of the prices. cash might be king, but you can't be king...
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but he did not tell us how. it was extremely frustrating. >> obama did not mention anything about china. he skirted a lot of questions and was never direct to the point. mitt seemed very confident in his actions, seemed to outline everything. if you do not have details to his plans -- number one, i think this, we are doing that, number three, we are doing that. i think we had a very good debate session coming up in the good future. i hope mitt polls through. >> i think both candidates did a good job. i was more impressed with the president and because of that i am getting off the fence and going with the president. i think the moderator could have exercised more control. he kind of let romney cut in and takeover more than he should have. i found obama to be more of -- more believable. >> i was ok with the moderator. he allowed us to see the true personality of the candidates. that is what we need, more of what they really are. >> the debate was not anything really special. i felt that romney was being a bit ridi
but he did not tell us how. it was extremely frustrating. >> obama did not mention anything about china. he skirted a lot of questions and was never direct to the point. mitt seemed very confident in his actions, seemed to outline everything. if you do not have details to his plans -- number one, i think this, we are doing that, number three, we are doing that. i think we had a very good debate session coming up in the good future. i hope mitt polls through. >> i think both...
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the other issue here is, in some ways, president obama is darned if he doesn't die but he doesn't. it would be seen as a political move in an election year a month away from the election if he was to take a strike based on intelligence. however, not acting could also have political consequences. it is a tough decision for the white house at this point summaries. >> that is a very talented both view, i think, part of analysts that would say that is a pro-american government. there is nothing refusing to allow fbi agents go there, but those aren't the acts of a friendly government, either that, or it was a delay on the part of a very timid government, namely our own to well, i'm still trying to find out the dynamics there. the one thing i can say is that the reaction in the aftermath of the assault was very different than what we saw in egypt. there were some arrests, although it does look like the people who were arrested first, were anything more than the usual suspects. the other problem i think is that the government doesn't really have that much capability. they need to negotiat
the other issue here is, in some ways, president obama is darned if he doesn't die but he doesn't. it would be seen as a political move in an election year a month away from the election if he was to take a strike based on intelligence. however, not acting could also have political consequences. it is a tough decision for the white house at this point summaries. >> that is a very talented both view, i think, part of analysts that would say that is a pro-american government. there is...
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i'm not here as a surrogate for the obama team, but i am here telling you that you have to decide when you are in a debate how much of your real estate you are going to spend in counteracting the lies of your opponent and how much you want to put forth your plan. the president chose to put forth his plan last night and that's what spent his time on. but certainly there were unanswered lies. >> newt gingrich, you've heard the allegations. apparently barack obama is facing the same problem you faced, is that mitt romney was just telling loads of lies and you can't do anything about it. >> first of all, it's a great honor to have governor granholm quote me and maybe one of the few times she ever does. but it was a very nice thing for her to do. i think what was intriguing, she actually raised a point that i was talking with my friends about today. i get the sense that obama never watched the debates that romney and i had, particularly in florida. even though both my wife and i have said publicly over the last couple weeks if romney arrives as tough, as aggressive with the clarity and the
i'm not here as a surrogate for the obama team, but i am here telling you that you have to decide when you are in a debate how much of your real estate you are going to spend in counteracting the lies of your opponent and how much you want to put forth your plan. the president chose to put forth his plan last night and that's what spent his time on. but certainly there were unanswered lies. >> newt gingrich, you've heard the allegations. apparently barack obama is facing the same problem...
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on a day when many stocks were buoyed by mitt romney's victory over president obama, let me tell you how i watched. i watched the debate within the parlance of my world, the stock world. i watched it with an eye towards making you some money. tweeting every potential stock idea triggered by either gentleman. ♪ how can you try to make money from the debate? let me parse it for you. show you how it's done. going over the actual statements by each candidate translating them into cramerican. let me tell you, there were tons of cramericans on twitter. if you tweeted me about the debate, keep an eye on the twicker running below. you may see your tweet. romney went right into a call for north american energy self-sufficiently, singling out coal as an endangered species under obama. listen. >> i like coal. i want to make sure we can continue to burn clean coal. people in the coal industry feel like it's getting crushed by your policies. >> lots of bozos went in and bought the coal stocks. all the coal stocks on. this wrong take away, people! coal's hostage to chinese demand more than u.s.
on a day when many stocks were buoyed by mitt romney's victory over president obama, let me tell you how i watched. i watched the debate within the parlance of my world, the stock world. i watched it with an eye towards making you some money. tweeting every potential stock idea triggered by either gentleman. ♪ how can you try to make money from the debate? let me parse it for you. show you how it's done. going over the actual statements by each candidate translating them into cramerican. let...
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. >> i'll tell you something, i am the only person as my pal dana has said, who thinks obama did well. so i know -- >> obama needs to step up his game. don't apologize for him. he's the president of the united states. he deserves to do better than that. >> i don't really believe he -- you really believe obama did well is this. >> yeah, i do. >> let's move on. >> moving on. you probably wondering what's eric bolling's favorite moment was? that is coming up in the next block. we'll have more moments from the debate. and later, reaction from president obama himself, plus you're not going to believe what the president wanted to do with osama bin laden if he was captured alive. we're going to tell you. that's next. stay with us. ♪ . >> back now with more of our favorite moments from last night's debate. we've got to everybody's except eric. should we look at yours first. >> you picked great shots, i wanted to go deeper. i heard something at the very end of the debate when they were making their final closing remarks. listen to president obama. he stumbles, but this really is a peek insid
. >> i'll tell you something, i am the only person as my pal dana has said, who thinks obama did well. so i know -- >> obama needs to step up his game. don't apologize for him. he's the president of the united states. he deserves to do better than that. >> i don't really believe he -- you really believe obama did well is this. >> yeah, i do. >> let's move on. >> moving on. you probably wondering what's eric bolling's favorite moment was? that is coming up in...
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we will tell you why the celebrating and why mitt romney is fighting back. see you in a few minutes. >> we look forward to that. tonight, an unemployed man his pregnant wife think they a winner with a chicken dish. >> are you crying? when was the first time you put chicken in a blender? [laughter] >> tears of laughter, i guess? shark tank is on at 8:00 tonight. all followed by abc 7 news at 11 o'clock. >> i will take your word for it, their word for it. has toee what bob ryan the weather for us this weekend. >> i think we are heading into a as the thunder comes around. evening, and also for saturday, a look at the current temperature is right now. 81 degrees in washington. hagerstown, 77. high 40's.s into the this is the picture from the forest service. you can see some beautiful color out there. the high of a late -- the high and tomorrow morning to see it.e time we will be seeing some good colors. and tonight, as the moon rises, brilliant objects that is is the planet jupiter. distance,in a polite about one second and f an hours about hal away from us. wha
we will tell you why the celebrating and why mitt romney is fighting back. see you in a few minutes. >> we look forward to that. tonight, an unemployed man his pregnant wife think they a winner with a chicken dish. >> are you crying? when was the first time you put chicken in a blender? [laughter] >> tears of laughter, i guess? shark tank is on at 8:00 tonight. all followed by abc 7 news at 11 o'clock. >> i will take your word for it, their word for it. has toee what bob...
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. >>> after the break, president obama gets his game face back following wednesday's debate telling voters in denver yesterday about the real mitt romney. >> the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year, promising $5 trillion in tax cuts to favor the wealthy, the fellow on stage last night said, he didn't know anything about that. the real mitt romney said we don't need any more teachers in our classrooms, but -- don't boo. vote. >> but has the obama campaign voted on how to portray the republican nominee? we will return to the paradox of the mittens when obama's super pac chief bill burton joins the package, next on "now." ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing the all-new completely re-imagined 2013 chevrolet malibu. sleek new styling... sophisticated dual cockpit design, and sport sculpted seats. available chevrolet mylink infotainment system. the all-new 2013 chevrolet malibu. ♪ refined comfort to get you in a malibu state of mind no matter what state you live in. ♪ we don't let frequent heartburn come between us and what we love. so if you're one of them
. >>> after the break, president obama gets his game face back following wednesday's debate telling voters in denver yesterday about the real mitt romney. >> the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year, promising $5 trillion in tax cuts to favor the wealthy, the fellow on stage last night said, he didn't know anything about that. the real mitt romney said we don't need any more teachers in our classrooms, but -- don't boo. vote. >> but has the...
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they know the truth and can tell a liar when they see one. >> now, what about president obama saying he wants to lower the corporate tax rate on manufacturing to 25%? what does that mean for workers? >> well, whatever it does, ed, we can help create more jobs in this country. what i like what he said about basically, we're going to reward people that put jobs here in america and we're going to make sure the tax is an incentive for people who send american jobs overseas. something that mitt romney has done. he did that at bain and sent jobs overseas. >> what was your response when romney was talking about he's been in business for 25 years, he didn't know anything about incentives for shipping jobs overseas? what was your reaction to that? >> well, again, it's this lie after lie. it's hard to debate somebody when he takes one position on his website, one position during the campaign and gets on television and completely changes it. he knows there's all kinds of incentives to have people move offshore. that's what's wrong with our trade policy. we have to get rid of those and basically
they know the truth and can tell a liar when they see one. >> now, what about president obama saying he wants to lower the corporate tax rate on manufacturing to 25%? what does that mean for workers? >> well, whatever it does, ed, we can help create more jobs in this country. what i like what he said about basically, we're going to reward people that put jobs here in america and we're going to make sure the tax is an incentive for people who send american jobs overseas. something...
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obama should have turned to him and said you are not telling the american people the truth. just as he did today in denver when he said he wasn't telling the truth. he should have looked him in the eye and said mitt romney, you are not telling the american people the truth. and then proceed to walk through as clinton would have done the mathematics to prove it. i don't think romney would have been smart enough to figure out how to get out of that hit, but obama ignored that opportunity and i think that's a mistake. joan, you're correct. he will everywhere he goes, he will save the day and correct what he didn't do last night, but 58 million people will not be able to be contacted in time for him to make that correction. >> well, joan, last night romney made another surprising state on his health care plan this time. let's take a look at the latest variation on a theme which is i'm not as bad as i am. let's watch it. >> let's get the governor explain what you would do it obamacare is repealed. how would you replace it? >> actually, it's a lengthy description but number one, p
obama should have turned to him and said you are not telling the american people the truth. just as he did today in denver when he said he wasn't telling the truth. he should have looked him in the eye and said mitt romney, you are not telling the american people the truth. and then proceed to walk through as clinton would have done the mathematics to prove it. i don't think romney would have been smart enough to figure out how to get out of that hit, but obama ignored that opportunity and i...
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langone and his ilk there afraid of president obama. are there others like him that we should be concerned about investing in schemes like this? >> i want to tell you that billionaire langone is the guy that created the list of black voters to wipe out that was given to katherine harris. he's the guy that did it. he's the guy that did it. he needed a new president. why? facing insider trading charges. >> jennifer: greg, we've gotta either have you back or make sure our viewers read your book because you've got a lot packed in there. greg pal ast author of billionaires and ballot bandits. how w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w >> romney: i'm sorry jim i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs and other things. i like big bird. i actually like you too. >> jennifer: that, ladies and gentlemen leads to our sixth and final mitt lie of the night so romney wants us to believe that cutting funds to pbs is going to fix the deficit. not true. in 2010, the federal government gave $300 million to pbs of course is not chicken scratch but
langone and his ilk there afraid of president obama. are there others like him that we should be concerned about investing in schemes like this? >> i want to tell you that billionaire langone is the guy that created the list of black voters to wipe out that was given to katherine harris. he's the guy that did it. he's the guy that did it. he needed a new president. why? facing insider trading charges. >> jennifer: greg, we've gotta either have you back or make sure our viewers read...